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The main slide out is 11’8″ long and 33″ wide. We have used a “T” desk for the past 8 years. I am on the left side, Pauline on the right, we have a small HD TV between us and … Continue reading

How Admiral Ackbar come into our lives.

How did this all start?

Around Fall 2010 Pauline and I started discussing the idea of living a “Nomadic lifestyle” and like a spark igniting a fire, it just took off. We love to travel, we love seeing new things and learning new things.

But since 9/11 and the TSA and the insane high cost of airfare’s, flying became just too much of a hassle. Train’s are a option, but take too long at times. Driving is possible, but by the time you get there, you are tired, and you hardly recover when it’s time to drive home and we have also learned that we do not like leaving home for more then 2 day’s, mostly due to wanting to be in our own bed, eat our own food, use our own shower’s and kick our own cats.

Why not just eliminate the bad and keep the good? If you don’t like being away from home, and you love to travel, bring the home with you.

So the question was, can we do it? Yes we can. Ok, now what do we do it in?

This was the hardest question. So we started going to RV dealerships. The first one we looked at was a Class C, and while we liked the setup, we wasn’t so sure it was the right size. So we started to look at Class A’s and going to RV show’s we saw a pretty nice Class A and it was priced within our range.

As the days and week’s passed we thought more and more of this rig and kept asking “Did we just miss a perfect opportunity?” A few months of this thinking we pretty much set in stone, we want this model. A few months after this, we discovered this model was a known maintenance nightmare and fire hazard.

Google is your friend.

Go back to square one.

We found a bus! The biggest reason we had not considered a Bus until this point of the search, was all the Bus’s we had seen started at $180k which was way outside our range of cost.

But this Bus was much cheaper and while 18 year’s old it was in excellent condition and from our experience, it was under priced, so we went to go see it. It was a very nice Bus. However the inside could and was described as “A 1980’s Las Vegas Strip Club”. Neon lights, and mirrors. Lots of mirrors. The wall’s, ceilings, cabinet’s, fridge, all covered in mirrors. We had no time, space, or knowledge to deal with all this so we had to walk away.

Square one.

Once more we started to look at Class C’s. Both used and new and while we know we could do it, it really boiled down to it is just too small for us. Our goal is to spend more time boon docking in BFE then in RV Park’s or Urban areas. And the cat’s were also a huge factor, they need room to run and spazz out like they do now. So for our own comfort level, we need more storage and larger tank’s to live the lifestyle as we envision living it.

Ugh. Square one again.

We found a Super C! It was larger and more powerful then a Class C! We liked it! We spent a few months looking them over online and really fell in love with them. They just worked for us. And as an added bonus, we have yet to see any nomadic lifestyle blogger out there who is driving a Super C, so how unique would it have been to be the only one in a small world? Sadly we only found 3 or 4 West of the Mississippi river in our price range, with the most of them in FL or NY. The logistic’s just could not be worked out.

Square one, we meet again.

For the better part of the last 2 year’s our favorite hobby has been reading the blogs of people currently living the nomadic lifestyle and looking at rigs on RVT.com. We have seen hundred’s if not thousand’s of different models. We have gone to 4 RV show’s, we have gone to 5 or 6 dealership’s and a few private listing’s. Nothing seemed to click with the both of us.

One night we came across the rig that would now forever known to us as Admiral Ackbar.

As I showed the Admiral Ackbar listing to Pauline, I was already thinking of the name so I pointed out the model name was “Admiral” and before I could finish, she blurt’s out “Ackbar!” which I fallowed with “It’s a Trap!”

Good laugh’s!

We gave the listing a look over, we loved the solar panel’s, the setup worked for us, we loved the green color and it was only a 45 min drive from us so a few week’s later we drove down to look it over.

Which turned out to be a good call. We both liked what we saw. It was in excellent condition and was “pimped out” for 2002 and was already w/d ready. We decided to take it for a test drive, it handled wonderfully. Started right up, nothing seem’ed wrong with it. We gave it some time, thought it over, talked it over, and we both realized this was the first rig we have seen that “spoke to us”.

We made a offer and they accepted.

Now the next 3 week’s was not pleasant at all. I won’t get into too many detail’s, just because it was such a negative experience that I do not want to dwell on, but it went from the highest high to a very low low in a very short amount of time.

The short version…

We accepted the loan, the dealer start’s doing what they do regarding paperwork etc and a few day’s after being approved, we was told the bank withdrew the offer. We are still not 100% sure why, the bank claimed the bank did not have the correct information while the bank said they did have it.

So we applied to 4 other’s and got instantly approved to the first, but at a much higher % (Which turned out to be about the average % for RV’s.) After a week plus of this back and forth with the other banks who was going out of their way to slow this process down we said enough and we contacted the offering bank and accepted their term’s.

A few day’s later, our dealership contact’s us telling us current owner’s bank is changing their term’s to current owner, so now the current owner’s bank could stop this whole deal. So we had to wait for that drama to play out. During this time our pickup date was changed 3 times. The original pick up date was Dec 6. We finally got Admiral Ackbar on Dec 21.

STRESSFUL.

But it has all worked out so far, so we are just going to keep going with the flow.

Emotion’s have ran high here for the last month. We have both been stressed and just wanted this to be resolved. Right now we are in recovery. I am still stiff in place’s but I am stretching more and that seem’s to help.

It has been a long 2 years. We did our research, and while we still have much to learn, I am very confident we will love this as much as we thought we would and that we have done the right thing for the right reasons.

For us.

 

 

 

What to get?

We have going through so many different thoughts of what we want to use…..Class A….Bus Conversion…….minimize even smaller and go for a Class C?

A little back ground, when we moved from FL to OR in Sept ’07 we rented a Class A and took 3wks.  Big mistake when it comes to the time, it was too short and we felt way too rush to fully enjoy it.  But it gave us some general familiarity with Class A’s.

Honestly, driving that size scared the hell out of me (and that was without towing anything like we will be going full time)….didn’t help that the first time I got behind the wheel was just before a bridge in LA that keep going up and up and up and up……it was NUTS!  Torn looked down the side of the bridge and said “Wow, this is a high bridge”  He looks over to me and sees me death gripping the steering wheel, all white and telling him “Do NOT talk to me”  I’ve never driven a vehicle so wide or long.  Didn’t want to hit another car and didn’t want go over the edge….totally freaky.

When we were thinking of A’s, after an RV show, we really like the Alfa with all the storage space and set ups, even though they are no longer being made.  Well that got shot down when we found out that there are may be safety issues with them…that left us feeling lost, we had to start all over.

Now Torn does the majority of the surfing of RV sites and seeing what is out there.  So when trying to to figure out what next, he came across bus conversions.  There are a lot of pros with those.  The diesel engines are made to go 1 million miles, the steel frame, no slide outs to worry about mechanical issues, washer/dryer, nice size fridge, some even had dish washers.  But the cons, they are harder to find, harder within our budget without spending a bit to modernize, financing since most are sold by private owners not on a lot and a lot of national parks have length limits.  Of course, the length while towing our Jeep and the driving setup didn’t make me feel comfortable.

Also, even though we want our stuff and a moving “house”, part of the point of this is downsizing….simplifying…more manageable.  After discussing and debating with ourselves, we decided to keep an open mind and look at Class C’s.

Torn found a site of a couple who totally redid the inside of an old Class C and really opened our minds to it more: http://theroamingpint.com/about/who-is-stanley/ We really need be able to have a work area, that sounded like a good idea and that lead to more ideas.

We really were looking at old models that we can redo…but then there is the issue about time (trying to pack, store and leave within a month of getting it…not an easy, realistic task or a good way to start off), then there is the budgeting….no matter what you try and do, it will always cost more and then there is know how.

The more I looked at the budgeting, getting a newer one, with close to what we want/need, will save us headaches, frustrations, time, and out of pocket expenses.  Now Torn is usually the one pushing the budgets limits and I’m the one like, no, no…..so this was a turn of events and threw him for a small loop.

Now don’t get it wrong, it still has to be reasonably priced, but RVs that come out listed at 90k get marked down to 70k 6 months later, then the if you find one an older one by just 1-2 model years, you can get them at 50k.  We’d have better odds finding what we want/need at the price we can live with.

The things we are looking for, is most important where to put the litter and work area.  Then there is storage.  Some have nice closet space but not many.  The ones that do, normally have 2 slide outs, one in the bedroom and one in the living area.  I actually only want one of those even though I would totally love the closet space.  But with preferring a Class C with the bed and not the entertainment center, we can bag and store some of our clothes, towels, and blankets up there and still have room so the cats have more places to go.

The one we really like is the Thor Motor Coach Chateau 31K.  The 2012 are very nice, but we like the the more rounded seating of the 2013.  We also found a 2012 Fleetwood Tioga Ranger 28Z, really liked that set up.  But when we went to see it, they couldn’t get the power working and that person really didn’t seem to care.  One place that is not getting our business…which was disappointing, don’t like limiting our options.

As of now, it looks like it will be class C…….which one is the question, but we have ideas and that is a good start.

 

Where do we start? What to research?

We are in the researching phase of this part of the adventure.  No matter how much we wish we can be like others and just take a leap, it has never worked for us.  Even though we know that no matter how much we research and plan, it won’t go the way we want or think it will, at least we have basis to work off of.

Since this is going to be our blog about this new lifestyle of ours and will help organize my thoughts, I’m going to share the researching and planning part of it.  It also helps gives a feel of what we have learned, where we are coming from and hopefully help us on our journey.

We really need to make sure we have internet service, everywhere…..since that is how we make a living, but since we want parks and out of spot places, it is much harder to assure connection, unlike urban areas. So far it sounds like hughesnet…..but they go through dealers…it is so annoying to find actual info.  If we can just buy the equipment and then we can get service without contract and turn it on and off when we need it.

Of course, we will have and need other internet back up. I’m now looking at getting a sprint usb card and then we can use a plan from Millenicom.

After searching all the boards that Torn found, he found this awesome blog that really breaks it done in the simplest of terms.  It is a how to on the basic stuff, that when I asked on the boards I got so many different answers using jargon that I wasn’t familiar with that I left frustrated.  This blog has been a huge help for the tech side of it :  http://www.technomadia.com/

Many of the fulltimers that we found on the board seem to “domicile” or claim residence in a handful of states for tax purposes, but we’ve finally found a state that we very pleased and proud to claim and do not want to give up our Oregon residency and total love how we vote through mail.

Ater researching what I could on the state site, I call I found that it is very easy for us to update our driver license, using our current rental as proof of our Oregon residency, and become “Continuous Travelers” and use our PO Box on our DL.

Now I need to figure out the mail forwarding part….the USPS offers weekly forwarding, but changing the address on a weekly basis is not feasible.  So far it looks as if I’m going to have to it forward on weekly basis to another service that will hold it until we request it…..actually wondering if I can have my folks do that to cut down on the expense……but at this time, I’m working to go paperless as much as possible for bills.  And off course, all my magazines will be moved to online subscriptions.

We also have a TON of books.  I’m so totally addicted to history, biographies and politics.  But we got ipads this past holiday so I’ve gone thorough all the books we have that I haven’t read yet and put the ebook versions on my wish list.  I give myself a small budget every month to get a few of them.  Other then our Ansel Adams & bird guide books, I have gotten down to 4-6 books that I want to bring…..all history and Supreme Court stuff…..yes, I am a geek.

We are cat lovers and have had cats for years.  We have cat trees and other supplies that are used, but still good for others.  I called the Multnomah Animal Shelter to see if they can use them.  They can’t sanitize cat trees to use in the shelter, but they can give them to foster parents and other people who need supplies.  I was extremely pleased that they won’t be wasted…….one of our cat trees is HUGE and those are expensive, so that it can help someone else is great.  I hate waste and love helping others.

Now for being a fulltimer you can’t just use regular RV insurance, which is a form of vehicle insurance.  We need RV insurance that is also a homeowner insurance.  Found that State Farm does not offer that type of insurance. So I have to look into that.  I did stop by AAA Insurance today and found out that they do offer that.  I’m also going to check out GEICO and get some estimates.

Now I’ve been with State Farm since I married Torn, 15yrs ago May 31st and Torn has been with them since day one, since that is what his folks used…..so over 24yrs.  And we have had excellent service, when we have had to do a few claims, but we would rather all our insurance be with one company.  So I need to gather all our current insurance and the terms so I can ask for estimates and compare.

Writing this out helps me to clarify my thoughts and our goals….but it now time for bed.